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Michele Chapais's avatar

I went to one of these gatherings for many years. When trans identified men insisted that we should welcome them, I thought then (and still think now) that their insistence was based on a need for us to validate their womanhood. Which I, and many of my sisters, will not do. We fought too hard for these spaces, and for so many of us, this is the hill we will die on.

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Mariah Burton Nelson's avatar

So interesting. Thank you, Elle. I visited several women's lands in the seventies and eighties. One in New Mexico was co-owned by a good friend. What they did there was lesbian-centric and -celebratory but mostly it was about love of nature: gardening, raising animals, chopping wood to heat self-built homes. They were physically and spiritually strong women - a small clan of six to twelve, plus visitors - and it lasted for decades, adjacent to "regular" men's lands who came to respect them and grant them the space they (we) deserve. We swam naked in a river, walked around topless, laughed, danced, played music, created and enacted meaningful rituals, and felt free to love and to be ourselves.

Another land I visited in the midwest was much larger in population and then co-owned by a one-breasted woman, post-cancer surgery. She, too, walked around topless, as did visitors, whom they welcomed and generously fed. I still have photos of smiling, sun-drenched, naked women.

I also attended the Yosemite Women's Music Festival (the west coast version of the more well known Michigan one) many times. There, we began to feel the intrusion of trans-identified men who showed up, tried to bully their way in, and met with strong resistance from most if not all of us. Again, being naked or in any state of clothing we desired - without fear or judgment - was one of many pleasures; the last thing we wanted was to encounter male bodies or aggressive, threatening male energy. We held firm, as I recall, and rules were written about "women-born-women" but it didn't last forever and perhaps that conflict was part of its demise.

As a lesbian elder myself now, I appreciate this virtual space to reminisce.

See also: The Disappearing L: Erasure of Lesbian Spaces and Culture (SUNY series in Queer Politics and Cultures) and Eden Built by Eves: The Culture of Women's Music Festivals, both by Bonnie Morris, women's studies professor

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